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RE: Eclair Cameras: The Future!
i beleive no matter when and how video replaces film, there will always be the collector and enthusiest/hobbiest that will keep it alive in one form or another.
regarding the attachment of a ccd to the film camera ... i have often wondered about this myself. why did we jump directly to video cameras, instead of going thru a hybred stage? it seems to me that having a camera wherein you could shoot film 'or' digital video would certainly be a great seller, and many people, including myself, would purchase one. however, there needs to be a standard wherein one can replace the ccd when a better one comes out, without having to replace your hard drive/storage, and anything/everything else. the new JVC hd camcorder, selling for $3200.00 is alot better then the panasonic, canon, and sony consumer products out there for the moment. it even comes with 2 xlr connectors, and records HD to regular miniDV tapes! it had an HD, SD, and DV switch, and the camera will automattically upconvert/downconvert the HD signal ot regular tv monitor standards for viewing. its a slick camera, and it seemingly provides noticable improvements in picture q
uality. i had considered the canon, panasonic, and sony ... but talked to a couple of people that had already received the cmaera for testing and they each told me pound for pound and dollar for dollar it is better then the other 3 cameras in its class. heck, its the only HD camera in its class. $3k!! Converts 720/30p digital HD images and 480p progressive wide images to the 1080i high-definition standard for viewing on the latest HD display devices. The down-converter converts images to conventional NTSC 480i broadcast standard video.
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From: Ian Marks <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 00:21:34 +0000
The Panasonic AG DVX-100 24p camera mentioned earlier in this thread
truly is remarkable, even more so when you consider that it is also a
sync audio recording device (with XLR inputs) and that it runs silently
(duh - it's video) out of the box. But remember that you are stuck with
the lens provided and are shooting on a tiny two-thirds inch receptor,
so you have depth of field issues that you won't have with fast, long
lenses and film cameras. The kind of soft backgrounds and selective
focus that I associate with film is hard to achieve on Mini-DV (there
are even diffusing screens available that you can place behind your
actors to achieve the illusion of shallow depth of field). The Panasonic
also has a fixed 4:3 (standard TV) aspect ratio - if you want to shoot
widescreen without sacrificing pixels you have to use an anamorphic
adapter and then "desqueeze" in post. A s always, the solution to one
problem gives rise to another, and new "work arounds" have to be
Yes, I think that digital will ultimately supplant film, but for now we
have to make your choices based on what's on the market today. Wouldn't
it be nice if someone would create a 24 fps progressive scan
receptor/recorder module that would attach to the back of our ACLs and
NPRs in place of the mags? We'd just lock the shutters in the open
position and shoot as before, using the same lenses and achieving the
same depth of field characteristics. Still cameras like Hasselblads and
Mamiyas can fit digital backs - why shouldn't we?
Michael Welle wrote:
Mark: Hi Michael --- Absolutely agreed that everything will eventually
... but I'll bet that nothing will cost less because of it.
But doesn't it serve to reason that the new Panasonic camcorder which
records 24P is only 3 or 4 grand, and twenty years ago an Eclair ACL
cost 16 grand and inflation was less. I know that 24P probably doesn't
look quite as good as the film shot with a 16mm camera (yet). But if
that Panasonic camera is any indication, I would hypothesize that the
cost of video equipment which can equal the quality of film will
eventually drop to extremely affordable levels. It's only a matter of
years, I think before film cameras will be gathering mothballs because
video will be able to reproduce the quality instantaneously. However, a
lot of that depends on the economy, the 2004 election, and the butterfly
flapping its wings halfway across the world;)
- Ian Marks
eric martin jarvies sr
cabo san lucas, bcs mexico cp 23410
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