There is a visible difference in telecine, as well as print. Another thing
about "softer" lenses, believe it or not, the image looks grainier than an
image shot through a newer, sharper lens. Nevertheless, the old
Angenieux's
have a certain indescribable look and feel -- I shot a cinema-verite style
B&W documentary with an old Angenieux a couple a years ago, and the lens
worked really well with that piece.
Good luck with your camera. I've shot with the Arri SR's, as well, and I
like toting the ACL around much better...
Julian Williamson
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>From: "Chris Bell" <cbell00@home.com>
>To: "Eclair ACL Discussion and Support" <EclairACL@listbot.com>
>Subject: Re: Very Nice!
>Date: Sat, Jul 7, 2001, 5:28 PM
>
> Eclair ACL Discussion and Support
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> I just finished two large projects shooting with a French made ACL 1.5
I
> was very nervous on the both projects until I saw the footage in the
Rank
> transfer. It was perfect. The registration was tight and clean.
>
> We sent the camera to George at Optical Electro in the US for an
overhaul
> and tested it out with a few rolls. In the past we have rented an Arri
SR
> but on these project we decided to purchase a camera so we would have
the
> freedom to shoot when wanted too. However we couldn't afford and Arri SR
so
> I felt like we were taking a big risk shooting with a camera that is no
> longer manufactured and has limited repair facilities and spare parts.
So I
> feel pretty lucky that the risk has paid off. The camera runs very
quietly
> and never has eaten or damaged film.
>
> I do have a problem now however... I have a newer Angeniuex orientable
> viewfinder and if the camera is laid on it's side over night, one of the
> elements drifts out of alignment so that when you look thru the view
finder
> only half of the image can be seen. However, if you set the camera up
> right, especially in a warm spot (i.e. in the sun), the problem
disappears.
> So I know something's loose because the prism or internal element slides
> back into place. However I have taken it to a highly qualified lens
tech
> twice and he seemed to zero in on the problem very quickly and fix it.
> However it never lasts! The problem quickly arises again. Is there
anyone
> out there that you folks can recommend?
>
> Also, I live in Colorado and have a nature documentary planned and would
> like to know if the Angeniuex 12-240 is a good lens - provided it's been
> taken good care of???
>
> I'm also interested in the Super 16 kit you mention, however, I'm a
little
> nervous about the conversion. I've gone to Super16ACL site but have not
> felt real comfortable mainly due to the lack of recommendations of good
> technician??? Also from what I understand my very sharp 10-100 T*(i.e.
> T2.8) would not be convertible to super16?
>
> Finally I would prefer an online forum if there was a history of prior
> postings.
>
> My hats off to whomever created this ACL email service. I believe this
is
> the only place to facilitate information on this camera system and it's
much
> appreciated.
>
> PS. I will send Tobin my interest in their new motor too.
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Chris Bell
> Colorado, USA
>
>
>
>
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> To: Eclair ACL Discussion and Support <EclairACL@listbot.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 10:51 PM
> Subject: July 2001 "Heads Up"
>
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> Eclair ACL Discussion and Support
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> Hi All,
> To our American Listees, I hope everyone had a good, safe 4th of July.
>
> I have some bad news. Apparently Bill Gates has decided that Listbot
isn't
> profitable enough, so Microsoft will be closing it down August 20. Good
> news is I have found a couple of other possible list services and will
> look into moving the ACL List over in the next couple of weeks.
> Things have been pretty quiet on the List lately and before I go to the
> trouble of moving everything I want to confirm that the ACL List is
> proving useful to everybody. If you have any feedback on how we can
> improve the List please let me know. You can post to the List or send me
> an off-list email at cinesota@yahoo.com
> We hit 30 members yesterday and I haven't seen a post in a couple of
> weeks. Would a regular online forum be better or should we stay the
course
> with an email list service? Should we expand the scope of the List or
keep
> it ACL only? I need some feedback. I understand we are talking about a
> tool here, a camera, so day to day discussions are not expected, but I
> should see at least a couple of posts a week to feel this is a viable
> effort. Help me out here folks and tell me what we need to do. How can
we
> make the ACL List better? 'Nuff said.
>
> I have corresponded with Clive Tobin and he has been swamped with other
> work and hasn't been able to work on the ACL motor. If you are planning
to
> upgrade your camera you should drop him a line and let him know you are
> interested. If he gets enough requests he may finally get the thing
> finished.
>
> I just purchased two of the HD144 Super 16 parts kits from Mark
> (Super16ACL@aol.com) and I have to say WOW! The stuff looks like it came
> from Eclair itself. If you are contemplating an S16 upgrade for your ACL
I
> highly recommend getting one of these kits. Mark is also working on a
> throat extender for the ACL 200' mags to allow better hand holdability.
> Right on Mark! Let him know if you are interested in this upgrade.
>
> There is a very nice ACL kit on ebay right now. If your in the market
you
> might check it out at
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1252617584
>
> And lastly if you have shot something with your ACL and you want to plug
> it on the List, feel free. Tell us how the camera worked out. If you are
> currently shooting keep us updated.
>
> That's about it.
> Good luck and happy shooting.
> Ray the List Mum
>
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