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RE: Eclair ACL Lenses

Hi, Julian, Mark, Larry, Phill, et al -- regarding Angenieux primes...

I wish it weren't so. lol So, now what do I do with my set of Angies
10-15-25? I spent many sleepless nights hunting them down on eBay. Of
course, I don't need to use stockings on my lens, like you guys who have the
Zeiss lenses, right? I mean, sometimes one tries to degrade the image to get
that dreamy look! lol


PS: I really appreciate the lens talk. It has helped me with many facts
about different shooting situations.

-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Williamson [mailto:julian3rd@earthlink.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:06 PM
To: EclairACL@topica.com
Subject: RE: Eclair ACL Lenses

Regarding a couple items in the last few e-mails:

R16 lenses:  Though it would seem that the longer focal lengths on R16 zooms
might cover S16 while the widest focal lengths would not cover, this is not
always the case.

With zooms, it is not absolutely certain where the point of least coverage
occurs.  I tested a R16 10-150 Angenieux once (an old c-mount lens), and it
did not cover S16 at 10mm, but began to at about 15mm.  It kept covering
untili about 45mm, when it squeezed in tight to the R16 corners for some
time, not opening out until 80mm or so.  Though I have only tested a few R16
zooms for S16 coverage, it does seems that it varies widely according to the
lens, and it is not always predictable.

There are lenses that shoot as well as the Zeiss.  As I've mentioned before,
I've shot with the 8-64 Canon T/2.3 (a S16 lens), and it is beautiful and
sharp as a tack.  It is also generally in the $10k range...

Angenieux has a new S16 lens out that my camera rental house (Armanda
Costanza in Nashville) reports is very good, though I have not shot with it.
The later model Cookes also have a great reputation, as does the earlier
Cooke R16 9-50, which I would love to try out.  Any reports?  All are quite
costly, except for the 9-50 Cooke, which usually goes in the 3.5k range...

BTW, the reason the ACL shoots as well as the SR2's is the little
spring-loaded edge guide on the side of the gate, which retains stability
though the film shrinks and expands proportionately with humidity changes,
etc.  The SR2's did not compensate for this, though they have a registration
pin.  The SR3's have a spring loaded edge guide.

The difficulty is that SR2's are such popular cameras that there are an
immense array of accesories for them, easily obtainable at a camera shop --
including milliframe controllers, matte boxes, and really nice video taps,
ad infinitum.

But, IMHO, they're a beast to handhold.


From: Pierre Samuel  Rioux <samro@total.net>
Reply-To: EclairACL@topica.com
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:48:30 -0200
To: EclairACL@topica.com
Subject: RE: Eclair ACL Cameflex info

Thank Barry I will try to contac George.
Pierre Sam

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Barry Green [mailto:black_angus1@yahoo.com]
Envoyé : 10 février, 2002 19:10
À : EclairACL@topica.com
Objet : Eclair ACL Cameflex info

|i also own a cameflex. havent found a manual yet but
|ill be on the lookout in France and in the states.

To those looking for manuals/info on the CM3, Cameflex, Camerette,

Try George over at www.opticalelectrohouse.com.  He has a lot of CM3
cameras & equipment, he may have a manual or the answers to your

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