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Re: Eclair Cameras: film processing b&w reversal


everything marl wrote to you is right
I do develop 16mm b&w film on my own,
with some of "those 100' tank"
and I have good result
the fact is that I made it for long time and get used
of it !
the other point is that you can use a lot of different
1st and 2nd developers, and that any fix will match
and that you can make bleach and clearing bath on your
It's very easy to do and much less expensive !

here are the formulas :

bleach : Potassium Dichromate K2Cr207 (POISON!l) To
make 1 liter:ad 10grams to 400ml warm water. Then add
10ml Sulfuric  Acid 96% H2SO4 (BE CAREFUL it can
explode) to 400ml cold water. ALWAYS add the sulfuric
acid to water and NEVER vice versa because it can
explode! Always wear protective clothing like gloves
and glasses. Ad the two 400ml solutions together and
add water until you have 1 liter.

clearing bath : Sodium Sulfite Na2SO3 (LIGHT POISON)
Add 40grams to 1 liter warm water.

just check infos on :
what works on super 8 does work on every material !

the only problem is that kodak changed the formulas
for the blewh on new tri-x and xx. It was a question
of environmental ecology, but it looks worst because
the bleach has to be thrown away after one use !
I never tried it, as I still find classical tri-x and
xx, and use more oftenly european filmstock...

so good luck and don't hesitate for any questions !

seb koeppel
bruxelles - belgium

--- eric jarvies <eric@earthid.org> wrote:
anyone here process the eclair footage themselves? if so, perhaps you could enlighten me. i rencetly contacted kodak and asked them to help me with a purchase that concerned processing b&w reversal tri and plus x films. as such, i was sold the following:

-rapid fixer w/hardner(parts A & B, both liquids.
1.38 gallons makes 5 gallons)
-reversal bleach and replinisher(parts A -4 pounds &
B -2 pounds, both powders x 2 bottles each, and to mix with part C liquid 1.24 gallons x 4 bottles to make 20 us gallons)
-reversal clearing bath and replinisher(5 gallons to
make 15 gallons)
-reversal redevoloper and replinisher(liquid, 5
gallon makes 15 gallons)

am i missing something here?  these are the NEW
chemicals/cat#'s from kodak. however, from all the online instructions i
have read reg
arding processing b&w reversal, all of them make
reference to a 'first developer' chemical. is this no longer required with the new chemicals? or are all the sales reps at kodak completely ignorant of the products their company sells(i have had sales reps tell me they do not sell k-40, as well as other dumbfounding statements that have given me indication the sales people at kodak have absolutely no clue what they are selling)? regarding these chemicals, when i had ordered, i had used the old cat#'s from their website:
cat# 1866284 developer starter 1 qt. for making 15
cat# 1866268 first developer replinisher cat# 1866201 redevolper cat# 1866227 reversl bath and replinisher cat# 1866243 reversal bleach cat# 1464114 fixer solution min qty 4.

but what i actually received are the items i first
mentioned. when i contacted kodak, they told me that my original order for the above cat#'s could not be filled, so they replaced them with the new chemicals. i contacted my sales rep again, and asked if she was certain, or if she could ask someone that knew, if i received everything i must have in order to process tri and plus-x to reversal. she emailed me back and said yes, i have everything. does any here know for certain? making long distance calls to kodak have proven more trouble then they are worth. what makes this particularly frustrating, is the chemicals must be shipped ground. so to get them down here into mexico, i had to first ship them to orange county, and then have someone drve them across the border into mexico, and ship them from within mexico to me. so it is a process to say the least, and dependant on having someone willing to drive them across the border for me. so if i am indeed missing a chemical, i will most likely let out a loud groan and mumble some curse words.

eric m jarvies
cabo san lucas, baja california sur.  mexico

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