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Re: Eclair Cameras: Shooting 35mm lenses on 16mm camera-response
Warren,
I am shooting with both 10-150 Angeneaux and the Zeiss 10-100, both for R16.
I hope to upgrade to either S16 or 35mm. I am going to shoot with lenses all
the way from 28mm to 600 f5.6 for wildlife. I agree that there is a 2:1
ratio of 16mm to 35mm, so the 600mm lens will be far more telephoto with the
16mm than the 35mm, but if 35mm is "normal" the 600mm is still almost 18
power, so that is still powerful enough, AND I can crop within that image in
editing if I need to, something harder to do with either 16mm or S16,
because you are starting with a smaller frame size anyway.
Hopefully I will be able to use the Nikon lenses AND the Arri mount lenses.
Does anyone know if an ACL has been converted to the Nikon mount, with Arri
standard mount as well, can I get a bayonet mount as well, to use the other
Arri bayonet mounted lenses, or am I confined to only Nikon and standard
Arri mount lenses?
Thanks for any help if anyone has one they want to sell?
Does anyone have a 35mm camera with Nikon mount they want to see, or even an
Eclair with Nikon mount?
Thanks,
Raymond
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From: "Warren Yeager" <wy@warrenyeager.com>
To: <EclairACL@topica.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Eclair Cameras: Shooting 35mm lenses on 16mm camera-response
You do get a significantly different image size between 35mm and 16mm
gates
when using the same lens. The difference between S16 and 35 is a little
less pronounced than it is between R16mm and 35mm, but theres almost a 2:1
difference. A 28mm lens in 16mm is about equal to a 50mm lens in 35mm.
I'm bored by all the math, but look at your director's finder and see how
the scales line up.
On the long lens size all is pretty good, it's on the wide side that we
have
the greatest effect. It's difficult and expensive to get a good 18mm
lens
in 35mm, and it's REALLY difficult and expensive to get a good 10mm lens
in
35mm. My zoom lens is a 9.5 - 57mm, the standard Angineux is 12 - 120.
12
mm in 16mm is a fairly normal lens....12mm in 35mm is wide enough to be
considered a speciality piece of equipment.
Warren Yeager, SOC
www.warrenyeager.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond" <roelrich@shaw.ca>
To: <EclairACL@topica.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: Eclair Cameras: Shooting 35mm lenses on 16mm camera-response
> In your first sentence you refer to the Nikon still lenses, do you mean
the
> zoom lenses that don't zoom lenses? The still lenses would not zoom, or
are
> you referring to zoom lenses there?
>
> Raymond
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "august loessberg" <jerdog@ou.edu>
> To: <eclairacl@topica.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 6:01 PM
> Subject: RE: Eclair Cameras: Shooting 35mm lenses on 16mm
camera-response
>
>
> > Nikor still lenses use a different helical mount internal to the lense
> they
> > do not zoom properly for motion picture film work. Nikors are the
best
> > prime you can buy.
> > The myth that 35mm lenses are telephoto to 16mm is a myth. A lens
focal
> > length is static. A nikor 35mm is a 35mm is a 35mm. The focal length
is
> > constant only the image circle is different. Compare a 24mm Nikor 35mm
to
> a
> > 25mm for 16mm the image is about the same.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Raymond [mailto:roelrich@shaw.ca]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:48 PM
> > To: EclairACL@topica.com
> > Subject: Re: Eclair Cameras: Shooting 35mm lenses on 16mm
> > camera-response
> >
> >
> > Thanks, and that does answer PART of my question, but the main one is
that
> > people claim the zooming on the Nikon will not look proper on film,
and
> that
> > these lenses are not set up properly to zoom while filming?
> >
> > The lens that is on the camera is the 35-135, or something like that,
and
> he
> > says it is fine, but many people say it is not good to zoom with Nikon
> > lenses.
> >
> > Raymond
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ian Marks" <ianmarks@lycos.com>
> > To: <EclairACL@topica.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 3:42 PM
> > Subject: RE: Eclair Cameras: Shooting 35mm lenses on 16mm
camera-response
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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