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Re: Eclair Cameras: Color Reversal Film processing and telecine vs DIY telecine

Good point. I like the idea of doing it here myself for my TV shows and
videos. Is anyone else doing this?

Raymond
----- Original Message ----- From: "eric jarvies" <eric@earthid.org> 
To: <eclairacl@topica.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 4:13 PM
Subject: Eclair Cameras: Color Reversal Film processing and telecine vs DIY
telecine



or, you can invest $2-5k in a DIY system that would allow you to capture

any portion of your reversal film directly to harddrive in uncompressed HD
quality ready to color correct in you nle application.  so an hour's worth
of film would about pay for this setup!  if you are going to DVD or
broadcast television with your final cut, then this is the way to go.  it
will save a ton of money in the long run.  and if you have a apple nle with
fcp, you can purchase the decklink blackmagic SDI capture/playback card for
$999.99 and you will be able to playback/record out to formats like
digiBeta, wherein you simply rent a deck for an hour or two, or however long
your final cut is.  this allows you to edit all your footage i nthe comfort
of your own home at your own leisure anytime you want for a fraction of the
cost at a nle house.


apple with final cut pro: $2k
hd capture/playback card: $1k
jk telecine/ workprinter: $3k

for $6k you can edit up to HD, and certainly anyling like minidv or

greater quality footage, and output to any sdi capable, or firewire capable
deck.  for $10k, you wll have a jamming system, new G5 with 2ghz dual
processors and up to 8gm ram.  purchase the new jvc HD camcorder for $3k and
use the workprinter 16mm at $2k, and you have an hd editing facility for
under $15k.  no joke.


eric


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Raymond <roelrich@shaw.ca>
Reply-To: EclairACL@topica.com
Date:  Sun, 03 Aug 2003 15:56:46 -0700

>I am also using the same lens, and soon the Zeiss 10-100, so I will

compare.

>Does the image get compressed to put it onto the mini-DV tape, or can

they

>put it onto a DVD to download directly into my computer, without having

to

>put it onto mini-DV?
>
>How does the saturation look compared to the negative film? Also, I

assume

>you are talking four 100 ft rolls, not four 400 ft rolls, right, for that
>price?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Raymond
>----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael Welle" <mwelle@starband.net> 
>To: <EclairACL@topica.com>
>Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 3:47 PM
>Subject: RE: Eclair Cameras: Color Reversal Film
>
>
>> Raymond,
>>
>> It costs a total of $193.95 for process, prep, transfer to MiniDV,
>> postage and handling of 400' color reversal at Bono Film and Video.  It
>> costs 137.88 for 2 rolls of 7239 and 2 rolls of 7250 including

shipping.

>>
>>
>> So for a total of $331.83 you can have 11 minutes and 7 seconds of 16mm
>> film put onto a MiniDV tape that you can watch over and over again, and
>> not have to worry about getting hair on it and what not (as you would

if

>> you watched the original with a projector).
>>
>> This is the way that I plan to shoot all of my films from now on.
>> People say that color reversal has more of a 70's-ish look, and since
>> I'm using an Angenieux 10-150 lens that was used in the seventies, and
>> my camera was probably made in that decade, I figured lets embrace that
>> Kodachromey look.  It sort of reminds me of another quote from Elvis
>> Costello:
>>
>> "When you're kicking in the car chrome, when you're drinking down the
>> Eau de Cologne, when you're spitting out the Kodachrome...you better
>> watch your step."
>>
>> No, but seriously the colors are very vivid, but I love the look
>> personally.  It kind of reminds me of the Return of the Pink Panther,

or

>> even Miami Vice!
>>
>> Hope that doesn't cause any of you to puke.
>>
>>
>> Michael Welle
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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eric martin jarvies sr
cabo san lucas, bcs mexico cp 23410

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