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Re: Eclair Cameras: Kodak's Future

A few things to consider:

1.  The installed base of 35 mm projection systems in the world.  Especially
those countries who are unlikely to sink the investment in digital
projection.  Bollywood still produces more films than Hollywood, and the
theatres in India show 35mm prints, and seem likely to for some time.  Maybe
not Kodak, but somebody's gonna make film for them.  I realize this is not
camera but print stock --  but the need of such, I think, is likely to keep
the technology going.  In addition, how many HDTV standards are there out
there?  It seems 35mm will continue to be the universal currency in motion
picture images for some time.

2.  Kodak's not the only manufacturer in the world.  Fuji's still out there.
And other, smaller companies like Ilford may enter the fray again.  It seems
that as Kodak has neglected somewhat it's traditional darkroom products
(chemicals, paper, etc.) Ilford has stepped in with some great quality
products.  Perhaps the same will occur with MP film.

3.  Everyone talks about the image quality of film, but few talk about the
elegant way it degrades -- which is one of the great strengths of film.  I
don't just mean archival stability, but the way it can be manipulated in
unique ways.  It can be very gritty and grainy, or smooth and pristine.  It
can be really overexposed.  It can be drawn on, scratched, tinted, and
painted.  It can even be handprocessed in buckets for a unique look -- Check
out the title sequence of the tv drama "The Practice" to get an idea what
this looks like.  Try doing that with an HDTV camera.  Film has a unique
look in a lot of ways.  I think this will always be in demand.

I don't know how Kodak will fare in the upcoming decade.  But I have
confidence MP film -- and new and interesting stocks -- will be produced by

julian williamson

From: Pierre Samuel  Rioux <samro@total.net>
Reply-To: EclairACL@topica.com
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:54:21 -0500
To: EclairACL@topica.com
Subject: Re: Eclair Cameras: Kodak's Future

    2 reasons wy the film still have a future !

First many movie theater can not spend 120,000 $ on digital projector per
screen. They could buy a new 35mm head projector for 12 to 14, 000 $.

If we shot at 30 or 48 frp and project that at the same speed the film
qualité could increase dramaticly at a level the digital could not reach
before 10 years. This could bring back techniscope 2frp it is only used for
take, but it reduced the film speed in haf 45 ft per minutes not 90 tf so if
you used a speed of 48 frp 2X the film cost will be the same but you
increase the quality.

Now we are in a hybride situation we used many processe to produce it is
creatif. At the end the film production will cost more in digital.

They have film solution possible it not need to be Imax, just increase the
speed the idea with techniscope the projector need to run at the same speed
90th per minut at 48 frp. We could bring this idea to 16mm also with a kind
of techniscoop done with a 16mm film with perforation on 2 side but the
super 8 hold and take only 1/2 of the image and increase the speed to 30 or
48frp.The fack is the image market go on wide.

What Scare me !  if pepole got a better quality to wach video at home (
digital theater at home ) and the industrie do not ajust to increase the
quality in movie theater the film is dead.For customer going to the movie
must be a experience, if you got better quality at home you stay home.

Pierre Sam
Sorry for my english I am french Canadian

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